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and good afternoon from philadelphia

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frank here with yet another

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episode of ufo news network sunday a

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busy week it certainly was

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awful lot happened uh major news

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broadcast network coverage

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uh continued coverage uh ambush

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interviews interviews on entertainment

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talk shows uh

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uh and uh quite a bit happen so let's

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not beat around the bush

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i'm gonna try to cover this in

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chronological order

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roughly maybe some jumping back and

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forth but uh

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let's get to last friday a week ago

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friday which would have been the 14th uh

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jerry

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jeremy corbell releasing yet another

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of uh

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three frame grabs that he had released

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when he released the

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triangle video this one looked based on

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that of those grabs to be a little bit

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interesting than what i think is that

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fairly obviously

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some sort of plane or drone dressed up

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to look like a plane with the flashing

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let's take a look at this video really

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and there it is finally we see

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uh this uh sphere-like object uh

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it's it's a it's a better video i've i i

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can't tell what it is specifically

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it doesn't look like anything that i can

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easily identify

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some people are saying balloon but then

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when you

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continue to watch it what have you got

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oh picnic kid

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rafael peralta to launch hilo

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it's hovering there and then we see this

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descent

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and it seems to disappear beneath uh

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six feet

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it doesn't it's hard to tell it's hard

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to tell that they're that choppy

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but eventually what you'll see is this

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video go further down

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and down or excuse me this uh aircraft

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go further down

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down down and disappear from view

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and there it goes there we go so now

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they they see it too a splash they hit

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the water

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so what we're seeing there doesn't

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necessarily jump out and say gee there's

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an advanced extraterrestrial craft there

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not sure exactly what that is certainly

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i don't know about that at all and that

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brings up

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a an article that was uh published on

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the 19th of last week

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and basically uh tom rogan over at the

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washington examiner he's been a guest on

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the show

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and basically what uh he was talking

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about was uh his concerns which

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echoed mine expressed here uh back on

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april 18th

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that there are so many of these uh

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we don't know exactly what they are

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there could be uh

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adversarial recon uh aircraft of some

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well he's basically uh echoing the same

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i fear that haynes may play up this

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meaning these recon drones to the

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exclusion or underplaying of the three

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and that would be incompatible with the

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spirit of the senate's request and the

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obligation

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and considering what i believe should be

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the second factor in the report

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namely that the most compelling ufos

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those ufos which lack conventional

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after exhausting investigation give

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credible indication of being highly

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intelligently controlled vehicles uh the

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has confidence that these most important

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take root and data returns

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and so on and so on and so on he's

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he's just expressing the same concerns

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that i am that this report might be

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buried in the obviously

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uh far greater in number uh

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encounters with just sort of ordinary

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things that they can't specifically

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explain they don't know exactly what it

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as compared to these uh other uh

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incidents uh like the nimitz incidents

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where you've got the hypersonic speeds

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incredible maneuverability that type of

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craft that that's going to get buried

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explanation uh ufos so that's his

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concern it was my concern two a week ago

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however there's also some very good

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that the task force is uh well

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at least things are moving in the right

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direction uh no matter what that what is

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actually in the task force report

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and uh a big event uh last last sunday

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we could go today

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uh cbs went all out in terms of uh ufo

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uh their cbs sunday morning show uh

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reported a sort of a hybrid ufo uh

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report uh

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uh focusing on what's been going on uh

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the uh all the uh the a-tip uh the ufo

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task force all that

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i spoke to leslie keane who had

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obviously uh written that new york times

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gave you i gave her some nice face time

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and i thought this was uh pretty

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interesting uh pretty odd

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that they sort of uh juxtaposed this

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situation

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with uh avi loeb uh the harvard

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who uh has said that this uh more more

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uh ufo

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for a little further out in space is

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actually uh might be

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a uh ufo spacecraft itself i thought

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that was kind of interesting uh an

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interesting uh juxtaposition

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and uh they actually they actually uh

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dug up a tape i thought that was pretty

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because this is something that

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i think at the time that this came out

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we were really focused on the

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uh the materials for your release we

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and really got into that in some detail

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so i kind of passed over this but uh

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uh let's uh let's take a closer look at

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all right jill next

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so avi i get a little bit pissed off

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when you throw the entire scientific

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culture under the bus

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because some of us have been thinking

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about and building instruments to find

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anomalies for a very long time

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that if we ever are going to announce

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such a detection that we require

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extraordinary evidence

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we're doing that as a way of

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differentiating ourselves

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from the pseudoscience that is so much a

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part of popular culture with ufos and

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and all kinds of claims of things that

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so um i wouldn't be so hard on the

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whole culture abby well let me explain

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to your first point i'm talking about a

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factor of a

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thousand in funding i'm not talking

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about a factor of

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two over a decade increasing funding

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i'm saying there is a discrepancy by a

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thousand in what's what needs to be the

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community that you are talking about

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a factor of a thousand is a big factor

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and moreover it's even a bigger factor

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because anyone that makes a suggestion

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in the direction of technological

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signature is being bullied and ridiculed

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i don't know wait a second let me finish

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important is in the dark ages

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people used to say that the human body

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should not be dissected there shouldn't

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be operations because it has magical

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because there is a soul now think about

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because of all these nonsense being said

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what well that

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that was a little bit longer piece than

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the the small snippet they used there so

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that uh within the scientific community

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there seems to be not only uh

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an aversion to a particular a particular

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uh like e.t visiting us

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and uh also uh there seems to be a

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and i i i don't like uh tarter's

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position in that particular exchange

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now uh loeb did something that threw the

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entire scientific community

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under the bus uh uh just uh don't uh uh

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don't think she was in the right there

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and uh uh appreciate that loeb standing

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up for himself so i thought that was a

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pretty interesting exchange

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uh let's face it as we go forward with

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this there is going to be

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a lot more overlay a lot more

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interlapping between science

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and uh us folks here in the ufo

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uh we already saw a little bit of a

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pushback uh from some

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uh some mainstream scientists uh over

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the last uh week after that 60 minutes

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uh they did uh go out and get the one of

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on the debunking side he wasn't wasn't

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too harsh here today uh

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last sunday he wasn't uh too harsh on

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either side

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but they did yeah you know they did get

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him to do the very unique double debunk

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he was actually sort of debunking uh the

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ufos on the one side and

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uh debunking uh uh loeb's finding about

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bad light he seems like a an evocular

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guy

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but they tried him out to uh basically

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spread over the years a lot of bad

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information about ufos i didn't see

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anything too terrible from him

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last sunday but i will talk about the uh

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a little

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incident uh that i had with him on

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facebook

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this this is a story i've never told on

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the show uh but i think it's

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worth telling in this spot and then

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we'll get into the review of the 60

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minutes piece

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but that basically right after the first

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new york times story came out

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the one written by leslie keane back in

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december

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of 2017 uh shasta

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said i'm going on facebook live through

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the seti

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there

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and i'm going to answer questions about

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ufos and

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uh no matter how tough they are think up

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your toughest question

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and uh you know ask me about ufos so

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i'm on break and this is probably as i

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remember it's a weekday i'm on the

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holiday break for uh

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uh for uh from work so you know i'm able

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to do it

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we get in there and a lot of people are

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asking there was a pretty good turnout

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as i recall not

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not thousands but i mean it was a good

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turnout a lot there were

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there were plenty of questions he's got

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assistance there

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you know helping uh go through the

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questions and feeding him and so on and

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so forth

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well the first question i ask is what

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about ufos and radar

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and uh it doesn't get answered and now

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there are a couple other people in there

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we're thinking

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along the same lines as me that also

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asked about ufos and radar

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uh so all in tall i think five uh i

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asked my question twice because it

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didn't get answered

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somebody else did the same thing and

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then somebody else was asking

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so all in all toll uh he he was

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asked five different questions about the

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ufos and radar

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and he didn't answer any of them and

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it's not like

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he was so deluged with questions like i

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said he had a nice uh

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a nice group in there but uh there's no

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way

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that he didn't uh didn't

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he was his assistant didn't see and uh

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feed him uh at least one question about

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ufos and radar

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so uh he dodged those questions and uh i

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think uh

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unless you can put a camera in front of

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him he's gonna keep on dodging

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i'm not sure what his position is he's

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sort of irrelevant to the thing but

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he's always uh he he's always uh

363
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one of the first guys to call for

364
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whatever reason uh this is a

365
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this is what you see when you need an

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expert you know an expert

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sort of grounded scientist they call

368
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this guy for whatever reason he's not a

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bad guy he's okay on tv

370
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he's articulate and all that but he's

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the first guy the same way that

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a lot of people call nick pope when they

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want something pro ufo what's going on

374
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with this ufo stuff and

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you know nick pope is uh doesn't really

376
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add anything hasn't really

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contributed anything within the field

378
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but that he's gotten himself

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into this position where he's recognized

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by

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tv people uh as a a good guy to talk to

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uh on tv

383
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and i mean that's basically the limit of

384
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uh what he brings to this uh

385
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this particular subject he might have

386
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some uh uh you know i i admire the city

387
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work i'm okay with the seti work on the

388
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seti work he's uh very very good

389
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and when it comes to him talking about

390
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ufos he's

391
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been very very bad and he has been for a

392
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long time

393
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so there's that and let's get to really

394
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the main event let's not beat around the

395
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bush the main event

396
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uh this past week was the 60 minute

397
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story

398
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well we knew it was coming uh i think we

399
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talked about it

400
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uh was it uh on the last show that i

401
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mentioned that it was coming

402
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and they did get it in before memorial

403
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day before the end of the month

404
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looks like they probably uh graham

405
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messick as you can see up at the top the

406
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producer

407
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he was hinting around about it on

408
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twitter a while back so

409
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they pretty well must have had this

410
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story pretty well near done before he

411
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started dropping hints

412
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online because like i say usually takes

413
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a little while

414
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they probably work the story they

415
00:15:06,230 --> 00:15:04,160
probably started working this story like

416
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back in april i would say uh that would

417
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be my guess they got it turned around

418
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pretty quick

419
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you know you gotta you gotta move people

420
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around you've got to fly here and there

421
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you've got to uh you got to gather them

422
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together you got to line them up you got

423
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to

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do some preliminary research so

425
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one thing that i pointed out online is

426
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60 minutes

427
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undoubtedly uh has a lot of a very good

428
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material

429
00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:30,880
gathered together but unfortunately with

430
00:15:33,749 --> 00:15:32,320
the because it's tv

431
00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:33,759
what they've got to do is they've got to

432
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boil it down into a

433
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very small time frame i i think the show

434
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is going to go

435
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uh far far longer than the 60 minutes

436
00:15:46,710 --> 00:15:46,240
piece uh went last sunday you know what

437
00:15:50,069 --> 00:15:46,720
13

438
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14 minutes of this show

439
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no yeah i don't think we've we've never

440
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done

441
00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:55,440
a show that short and that's what

442
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they've got to do on tv

443
00:15:59,749 --> 00:15:58,720
it's amazing that uh the money the

444
00:16:01,749 --> 00:15:59,759
resources

445
00:16:03,910 --> 00:16:01,759
uh the access that they get because when

446
00:16:05,110 --> 00:16:03,920
60 minute calls and uh wants to do an

447
00:16:06,230 --> 00:16:05,120
interview with you yeah sure you're

448
00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:06,240
going to do it you're not going to tell

449
00:16:08,710 --> 00:16:06,959
them now

450
00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:08,720
and they're going to get you to

451
00:16:13,030 --> 00:16:11,040
someplace or they'll rent a room

452
00:16:15,030 --> 00:16:13,040
uh you know if you don't want them over

453
00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:15,040
to your house

454
00:16:18,629 --> 00:16:17,440
they've got incredible resources and

455
00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:18,639
money and access

456
00:16:22,230 --> 00:16:21,440
and influence and an audience too

457
00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:22,240
apparently

458
00:16:26,389 --> 00:16:24,720
they drew about nine million people uh

459
00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:26,399
watching live and then maybe

460
00:16:29,910 --> 00:16:28,160
several million more have watched since

461
00:16:33,590 --> 00:16:29,920
that including overseas

462
00:16:36,069 --> 00:16:33,600
so uh the the the show uh

463
00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:36,079
has some incredible pull and i would say

464
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just as an overall review

465
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uh considering the time constraints

466
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that they have to deal with

467
00:16:48,629 --> 00:16:47,199
and basically they've got no time at all

468
00:16:51,829 --> 00:16:48,639
a blink of an eye

469
00:16:54,150 --> 00:16:51,839
to put a fairly complicated and nuanced

470
00:16:56,310 --> 00:16:54,160
story together and have it make sense

471
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for people who are listening at home

472
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they did a good job with that they

473
00:17:00,629 --> 00:17:00,000
really did i was very impressed with

474
00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:00,639
that part

475
00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:03,360
did i learn anything new not a whole lot

476
00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:04,000
i would say

477
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uh uh the one thing that i learned that

478
00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:07,120
was new

479
00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:08,319
that i thought was interesting was a

480
00:17:13,350 --> 00:17:10,400
little bit more about uh how mellon

481
00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:13,360
and elizondo first crossed paths uh

482
00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:14,720
while they were both still uh

483
00:17:18,949 --> 00:17:16,720
in the government that was uh uh that

484
00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:18,959
was a kinda that was interesting and uh

485
00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:20,799
that was a small little piece that i was

486
00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:22,160
not aware of so

487
00:17:26,309 --> 00:17:24,240
again uh some sort of inside baseball

488
00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:26,319
background how did how did they meet you

489
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know

490
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was it a blind date or no no they were

491
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working on ufo stuff and they did

492
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become aware of each other and cross

493
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paths and uh that's how that happened so

494
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that was interesting

495
00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:38,480
and then of course uh again uh

496
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alex dietrich actually appearing on

497
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camera

498
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this was a first we hadn't seen that

499
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before

500
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obviously a couple years ago on season

501
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one of

502
00:17:53,350 --> 00:17:51,520
unidentified the ttsa uh melanie

503
00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:53,360
elizondo the long show

504
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over on history channels she did appear

505
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but in shadows so

506
00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:00,799
now we finally got her and uh she's

507
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actually kind of a uh gone public as an

508
00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:04,960
account over on twitter is fielding

509
00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:06,799
questions and all that so uh

510
00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:08,640
that's uh pretty interesting there

511
00:18:12,390 --> 00:18:10,480
everybody uh sort of uh

512
00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:12,400
wants to see what she thinks about this

513
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and that and the other thing and

514
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apparently she's

515
00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:17,760
expressed some interest in uh actually

516
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uh learning a little bit more about the

517
00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:20,880
ufo stuff so

518
00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:23,919
so uh that uh that story has changed a

519
00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:24,640
little bit

520
00:18:28,630 --> 00:18:26,880
from the beginning now she she'll she'll

521
00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:28,640
never come forward she'll

522
00:18:32,470 --> 00:18:30,559
never speak about this too hey it's

523
00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:32,480
quite a surprise when she did the in

524
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shadow interview on unidentified a

525
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couple years back and now here she is we

526
00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:38,400
see who she is we know who she is

527
00:18:42,549 --> 00:18:39,840
we knew the name it had leaked out

528
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before i did not focus on it here

529
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because

530
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hey that's what you wanted you can

531
00:18:47,590 --> 00:18:46,640
certainly respect that i think people

532
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:47,600
have the right to

533
00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:51,039
uh pursue and share information uh uh as

534
00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:54,000
they see fit in terms of uh their

535
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privacy and all that

536
00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:58,799
in general and elizondo back on there

537
00:19:01,669 --> 00:18:59,280
again

538
00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:01,679
he certainly had a busy week we'll get a

539
00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:03,120
little bit further to that

540
00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:05,120
and then basically that was the 60

541
00:19:11,029 --> 00:19:07,440
minutes i got quite a bit of attention

542
00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:11,039
and uh deservedly so they did i think a

543
00:19:15,830 --> 00:19:11,919
a really

544
00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:15,840
excellent job um boiling down a very

545
00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:16,799
complicated

546
00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:19,840
nuanced story into 14 minutes that

547
00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:22,000
could sort of make sense to somebody

548
00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:24,320
coming into all this fresh so uh

549
00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:27,039
and the attention that it got because it

550
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:28,000
didn't end there

551
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:29,679
of course the fact that 60 minutes

552
00:19:33,029 --> 00:19:31,679
covered it got a lot of attention that

553
00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:33,039
was a catalyst for a

554
00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:36,240
very interesting work week

555
00:19:41,110 --> 00:19:39,440
so it seems like cbs has become the ufo

556
00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:41,120
network at least it was for a couple

557
00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:42,080
days there

558
00:19:46,390 --> 00:19:44,160
now because monday night the former

559
00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:46,400
president barack obama

560
00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:49,120
appeared on the the late night show over

561
00:19:53,350 --> 00:19:50,400
on cbs with

562
00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:53,360
james corden and if you remember back in

563
00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:54,320
december

564
00:19:58,070 --> 00:19:56,160
he was he must have some kind of

565
00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:58,080
arrangement he's like the nick pope of

566
00:20:01,830 --> 00:20:00,400
cbs over there because he's on there

567
00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:01,840
quite a bit he was on with stephen

568
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:02,640
colbert

569
00:20:06,870 --> 00:20:04,880
and that basically did not deal with the

570
00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:06,880
question at all about ufos

571
00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:09,120
that's definitely further than he's gone

572
00:20:12,149 --> 00:20:11,280
as far as i know in any interview in

573
00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:12,159
terms of

574
00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:14,400
uh sort of acknowledging that there are

575
00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:15,280
at least

576
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:18,240
some unusual ufos out there that defy

577
00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:19,200
explanation

578
00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:20,960
so that was pretty interesting and it

579
00:20:24,149 --> 00:20:22,720
was also interesting that he talked

580
00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:24,159
about deflecting

581
00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:27,360
because uh late in the week on friday

582
00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:29,600
finally uh somebody has actually gotten

583
00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:30,400
a ufo

584
00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:33,760
question into president joe biden he's

585
00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:36,880
somehow managed to evade them throughout

586
00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:38,720
the primaries throughout the election

587
00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:40,080
and throughout

588
00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:42,080
the first several months of his

589
00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:44,559
presidency but finally at a press

590
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:45,760
conference with

591
00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:48,799
the south korean president he was

592
00:20:58,789 --> 00:20:52,000
asked the question and uh here is his

593
00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:00,830
if you're not asking me like you usually

594
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:10,789
obama says that there is footage

595
00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:14,400
and records of objects in the skies

596
00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:17,039
these unidentified aerial phenomenon and

597
00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:17,760
he says

598
00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:20,880
we don't know exactly what they are what

599
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:21,760
do you think

600
00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:24,080
that it is i would ask him again thank

601
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:33,750
come on let's go

602
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:36,470
so there was the question and that was

603
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:38,640
the answer he looked like he was uh

604
00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:40,159
looking to get out of there after that

605
00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:42,240
one as quickly as possible he forgot to

606
00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:43,840
take out his earpiece

607
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:46,000
as he was making his way out of the room

608
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:47,919
there and

609
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:50,559
tripped up a little bit so yeah that was

610
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:51,120
it

611
00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:54,559
fox news

612
00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:57,600
uh ducey asked it was a good question it

613
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:58,880
was specific but

614
00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:01,440
he was able to deflect it pretty quickly

615
00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:03,360
uh hopefully somebody else goes back to

616
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:04,960
the drawing board and

617
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:07,360
asks him another specific question uh

618
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:08,320
probably about the

619
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:10,960
the the task force report that type of

620
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:11,760
thing but uh

621
00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:14,159
he was able to uh deflect that one

622
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:15,120
pretty quickly

623
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:17,039
so uh that's where we're at with

624
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:18,880
presidents and ufos

625
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:21,200
uh it wasn't a whole lot from biden but

626
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:23,360
we did get more uh from everett uh more

627
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:24,080
than ever

628
00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:26,400
uh from obama he did uh talk a little

629
00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:27,120
bit more

630
00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:30,559
uh about uh his uh uh at least some uh

631
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:33,039
somewhat of an interest in the ufo stuff

632
00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:34,640
uh while he was president

633
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:36,720
uh we know that he had hillary clinton

634
00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:39,039
as uh his secretary of state and she was

635
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:40,720
interested and of course he had

636
00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:43,600
john podesta as a senior advisor and we

637
00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:44,559
know how

638
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:46,960
uh seriously interested he's been in all

639
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:48,400
this over the years so

640
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:52,400
uh the the guy reggie

641
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:55,200
didn't uh didn't really dig in on that

642
00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:56,720
kind of background you know he just

643
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:57,280
asked

644
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:59,760
a general question about aliens and uh

645
00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:00,480
obama

646
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:02,240
could have uh could have rebuffed it but

647
00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:04,559
he did go into a little bit more detail

648
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:06,880
that he has in the past so presidents

649
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:08,320
are getting asked again

650
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:11,039
so that's a good thing it's uh going to

651
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:12,720
stay in the news and

652
00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:16,159
another group of individuals

653
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:17,840
are talking about this particular

654
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:20,000
subject and that is a

655
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:23,120
former uh director-level personnel from

656
00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:25,120
these intelligence agencies are getting

657
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:26,080
asked again

658
00:23:29,510 --> 00:23:28,640
and uh former uh director of national

659
00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:29,520
intelligence

660
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:32,720
james clapper was asked uh this week

661
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:34,320
about uh what's up

662
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:37,440
what's going on with the ufo stuff

663
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:40,320
so clapper was on over at cnn and he got

664
00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:41,200
asked again

665
00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:43,600
and uh his answer is interesting along

666
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:44,240
with

667
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:47,440
uh john ratcliffe who's a former dni

668
00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:49,200
director has been asked and

669
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:50,960
he's talking of course he was in office

670
00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:52,320
he's gotten he's

671
00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:54,080
acknowledged he's gotten briefed he's

672
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:55,919
seen a lot of the information that's

673
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:56,960
floating around

674
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:58,240
in those circles at least the

675
00:24:01,510 --> 00:24:00,559
contemporary information and uh some

676
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:01,520
guys who've

677
00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:04,320
uh been in that uh situation in the past

678
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:06,159
top-level intelligence people

679
00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:08,400
uh like uh woolsey over at the cia and

680
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:09,440
john brennan

681
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:11,919
uh he they have uh uh they have uh sort

682
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:14,080
of a joined this chorus now

683
00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:16,559
uh four individuals that uh with the the

684
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:18,559
holding director-level positions in the

685
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:19,440
intelligence

686
00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:22,720
area uh have uh gone on record and uh

687
00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:25,200
saying uh they're open to this uh that

688
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:27,279
so i think that's interesting let's take

689
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:29,679
a look at clapper's comments

690
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:31,120
a government report is expected to be

691
00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:34,240
made public on the sightings of ufos

692
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:35,919
as the former director of national

693
00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:37,520
intelligence i think there

694
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,120
there have been a lot of theories about

695
00:24:42,789 --> 00:24:41,760
ufos what do you make of these

696
00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:42,799
revelations

697
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:44,880
what might this be have you seen any

698
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:48,320
yourself what do you make of this

699
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:51,600
well uh first i think it is kind of uh

700
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:53,520
there is logic to the intelligence

701
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:54,960
community addressing this since the

702
00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:56,480
tilde community has a lot of practice of

703
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:57,919
dealing with ambiguity

704
00:25:01,669 --> 00:25:00,559
and less than complete facts and

705
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:01,679
secondly i think it

706
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:04,799
is really important that the whenever

707
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:08,559
we uh witness such phenomenon that

708
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:11,679
it is recorded and documented uh for the

709
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,640
future

710
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:14,480
uh when we may have gather more

711
00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:15,679
information and have a better

712
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:16,720
understanding

713
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:18,799
of uh what's what is it what's

714
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:20,159
transpiring

715
00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:23,039
uh could there be life out there sure uh

716
00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:24,880
as huge as the universe is we

717
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:26,880
you know we really can't reject that

718
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:29,120
possibility so i think this is a good

719
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:29,600
thing

720
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:33,360
the transparency uh i

721
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:35,440
expect this report will be filled with

722
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:37,200
ambiguity as well

723
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:39,200
and people uh depending on their

724
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:40,320
leanings will

725
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:42,320
extract what they want out of this

726
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:45,360
report how it always goes right

727
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:48,000
where there is ambiguity people can pull

728
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:49,520
what they want from it but it is

729
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:51,760
it does sound like it is uh you know

730
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:53,520
something that we haven't seen before

731
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:55,200
this type of transparency around this

732
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:56,960
topic

733
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:58,960
yes you know you know i'm not sure why

734
00:26:03,110 --> 00:26:00,240
that is uh

735
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:03,120
the only reason for uh to me for

736
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:04,799
classification would be if there's some

737
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:05,919
sensitive

738
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:09,440
method that uh data relating to you

739
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:12,400
so-called ufos was collected but other

740
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:13,360
than that

741
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:14,880
i don't know why we haven't been more

742
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:17,520
transparent about it in the past and

743
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:20,000
and uh i i'm i'm part of that crime i

744
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:20,880
guess

745
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:24,159
uh and my former capacities were

746
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:26,880
you know i didn't i didn't insist on

747
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:29,200
more transparency with respect to

748
00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:36,470
so you've got these intel directors

749
00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:38,000
these former intel directors

750
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:41,200
uh talking about ufos that they're

751
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:43,760
that they're a legitimate thing there

752
00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:45,520
should be more openness on them

753
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:48,480
uh it seems to me that uh with all these

754
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:49,279
guys uh

755
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:52,960
saying largely the same thing in general

756
00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:56,080
that uh they they're still in the loop i

757
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:57,039
mean obviously

758
00:27:00,310 --> 00:27:00,000
uh ratcliffe was in the job you know uh

759
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:00,320
as

760
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:06,400
trump left office so uh these guys have

761
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,679
gotten the

762
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:09,679
better uh better intel a better

763
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,960
information than

764
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:12,240
uh than we've been getting on the

765
00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:14,159
outside and now they've gotten the heads

766
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:15,200
up i believe that

767
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:17,200
uh the the former guys uh they're still

768
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:19,200
in the loop uh they they still get

769
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:20,960
briefed they still hear things

770
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:23,520
and uh somebody's in their ear uh

771
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:24,640
basically telling them

772
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:26,480
they might have to pivot a little bit

773
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:28,480
and get a little bit more out in front

774
00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:30,640
in this because they're going on tv all

775
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:32,399
the time uh talking about

776
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:34,080
other intel matters you know they're

777
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:37,039
acting as a consultants and uh analysts

778
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,320
for these various tv networks so uh

779
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:42,960
somebody has a uh gotten in their ear

780
00:27:45,909 --> 00:27:45,039
like i said and uh basically uh told

781
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:45,919
them that

782
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:48,320
uh this is what it is that this is a

783
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:49,360
this is on the way

784
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:52,000
this is coming and uh better when you

785
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:53,679
get asked about it uh better to

786
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:55,760
uh to pivot a little bit then look like

787
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:57,520
you're terribly behind the curve and out

788
00:28:01,909 --> 00:27:58,399
of the loop

789
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:01,919
so uh later on in the week uh senator

790
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:04,640
martin heinrich from new mexico who is

791
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:05,200
on the

792
00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:07,200
senate intel committee that asks for

793
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,279
this uh ufo report

794
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:12,000
from the pentagon and you know the intel

795
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:13,200
sources as well

796
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:15,600
uh he was asked about it it's a very

797
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:17,919
interesting this one comes from tmz

798
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:19,840
tmz pretty good at the ambush interview

799
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:21,520
so they're tracking these guys down

800
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:22,720
they're getting hold of them

801
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:25,760
and of all of all sources you know

802
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:28,240
sort of a tabloid entertainment uh

803
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,039
what's up with

804
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:31,360
the latest celebrity uh getting arrested

805
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:32,480
or doing this or that

806
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:34,240
or uh cheating on their wives or

807
00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:36,399
whatever uh they're uh

808
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:38,559
they're the outlet that's uh getting uh

809
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:40,559
it's gotten out of uh senator rubio in

810
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:41,279
the past and

811
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:43,120
uh now i've got uh senator martin

812
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:45,039
heinrich uh earlier this week you're on

813
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:45,919
intel committee

814
00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:47,760
bigger thing to worry about if it's a

815
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:49,919
foreign government or if it's aliens

816
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:52,559
oh option b much bigger thing you think

817
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:54,159
the aliens would be worse

818
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:57,279
i'm not really a betting man but

819
00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:00,640
the way uh these things

820
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:03,679
operate you know they certainly you

821
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:04,799
wouldn't want a human

822
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:07,679
being or any living creature in

823
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:08,880
something that

824
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:11,679
moves that fast and changes direction

825
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:13,919
that quickly

826
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:16,880
so based on that brief little snippet uh

827
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:17,679
he's

828
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:24,000
he has seen much better evidence for

829
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:25,440
these hypersonic

830
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:27,760
uh hypersonic vehicles that the the

831
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:29,039
change on a

832
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:34,080
hand turns at supersonic speeds

833
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:36,559
that type of thing that the human body

834
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:37,760
couldn't withstand

835
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:41,360
so he he's telling you that

836
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,320
he's seen evident uh not really evident

837
00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:46,240
obviously it satisfies at least in his

838
00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:46,799
mind

839
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:48,960
enough proof that that type of thing has

840
00:29:53,510 --> 00:29:50,240
uh has gone on

841
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:53,520
i don't know what the source of that is

842
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:54,000
is it

843
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:58,559
combination of the two

844
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:01,679
but i think all these guys have seen uh

845
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:04,480
seen much better evidence and maybe uh

846
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:05,919
leading up to the

847
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:08,559
point of proving it at least in these

848
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:09,520
guys minds

849
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:11,919
that uh those kind of uh vehicles are

850
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:12,640
out there

851
00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:14,960
and that we have captured remote sensing

852
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:15,679
data

853
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:18,240
uh on that uh so uh there are some

854
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:18,720
people

855
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:22,080
saying

856
00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:24,080
yeah this is a done deal that so that's

857
00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:25,120
very interesting

858
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:27,279
while uh earlier on i talked about the

859
00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:29,520
uh the sort of a mundane

860
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:32,480
uh uaps that we've seen uh for the most

861
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:33,520
part on video

862
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:35,440
uh especially the recent videos that

863
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:37,200
were released yeah that could be

864
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:38,480
anything you know who knows about what

865
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:39,360
that might be

866
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:41,840
or that is you know a plane or that

867
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:43,360
could be a balloon we're not sure

868
00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:44,640
they're not

869
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:47,440
not really exhibiting any of those kind

870
00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:49,679
of extraordinary flight characteristics

871
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:52,640
but uh believe that these guys have seen

872
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:53,039
it

873
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:55,760
uh rubio as well mark warner as well in

874
00:31:04,310 --> 00:30:57,840
the uh the senate intelligence committee

875
00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:04,320
so that's where that is and

876
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:08,000
finally uh what is uh the ufo subject

877
00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:08,799
without some

878
00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:11,200
good old-fashioned soap opera and it's a

879
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:12,159
very uh

880
00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:15,440
very interesting developments uh uh

881
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:18,399
somewhat involving uh stephen greer and

882
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:19,200
also

883
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:23,120
the lawyer daniel sheehan who has

884
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:26,240
done done some work with greer and

885
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:30,480
also was featured rather prominently

886
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,799
in greer's last movie the first third of

887
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:34,880
which was basically a manifesto

888
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:37,760
knocking the threat scenario regarding

889
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:38,240
uh

890
00:31:42,789 --> 00:31:41,600
et ufos did a nice job of it

891
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:42,799
actually it was the best part of the

892
00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:44,880
movie and i thought he did a

893
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:47,360
fair job of it and actually i'm on that

894
00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:49,440
side as far as all this and apparently

895
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:50,000
the

896
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:57,600
to national security and so on and so

897
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:58,399
forth

898
00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:01,200
from these ufos uh regardless of uh

899
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:03,279
whether they're e.t or not

900
00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:07,039
but uh that uh i i i've been against it

901
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:07,519
uh

902
00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:14,960
gotten

903
00:32:20,789 --> 00:32:18,960
certainly have the right to speak out

904
00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:20,799
against uh the threat scenario i think

905
00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:21,919
it's nonsense

906
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:24,480
but at the same time you can't you can't

907
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:26,880
argue with the results so it was a

908
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:28,880
means to an end and apparently uh that

909
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:31,360
was uh acknowledged uh within uh at

910
00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:32,799
least uh based on

911
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:34,320
uh some of the things that sheehan's

912
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:36,000
been saying over the last week

913
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:38,720
uh ella's he's been uh well elizondo has

914
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:40,799
apparently retained him uh retained

915
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:41,519
sheehan

916
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:44,640
as a lawyer and uh that

917
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:47,279
that is one of the caveats of sheehan's

918
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:48,159
continued

919
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:50,640
work with elizondo that he's got to get

920
00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:52,720
away from that and he's got to

921
00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:56,240
not talk talk about the ufos uh in the

922
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:56,880
the threat

923
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:58,880
context it was very interesting uh

924
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:01,120
elizondo appeared

925
00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:03,360
on the uh the george stephanopoulos uh

926
00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:05,600
uh show uh this sunday morning was a

927
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:09,039
a very brief interview he didn't

928
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,600
really provide much uh but uh elizondo

929
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,440
did steer clear of it uh

930
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:15,200
and uh some other interesting things

931
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:17,200
that have happened during the last week

932
00:33:23,830 --> 00:33:20,559
that uh she and has filed an additional

933
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:23,840
uh complaint with the inspector general

934
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:24,399
uh

935
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:32,000
have been said about elizondo

936
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:34,480
from the pentagon related to his atip

937
00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:35,039
work

938
00:33:39,509 --> 00:33:37,279
uh they uh he might be making some

939
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:39,519
progress uh too because uh also late in

940
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:40,320
the week

941
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:42,640
uh the the pentagon finally acknowledged

942
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:43,600
that uh

943
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:47,200
atip did at least do some

944
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:50,320
work related to ufos really kind of

945
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:52,240
acknowledging the obvious and uh sort of

946
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:53,360
correcting a rather

947
00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:56,720
uh transparent and uh ridiculous lie

948
00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:58,720
they they gain nothing from this

949
00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:00,799
obviously uh from doing it except that

950
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:02,399
making themselves look bad

951
00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:04,320
but they they did finally correct that

952
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:07,200
who knows that might be sheehan's work

953
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:10,000
uh behind the scenes uh he had uh said

954
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:10,399
that

955
00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:13,679
he had a meeting with the inspector

956
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:15,919
general uh coming up uh this was uh this

957
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:16,320
past

958
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:18,399
wednesday so uh sheen is talking a

959
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,679
little bit he's talked about his

960
00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:21,599
interactions with elizondo

961
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:24,079
about uh how he should get away from the

962
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:25,839
threat narrative and that

963
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:28,159
uh if you want shane to do the work for

964
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:30,159
him uh uh then uh you know

965
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:32,240
you you gotta change your messaging a

966
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:34,399
little bit and uh that

967
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:37,040
we see some evidence that she and uh

968
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:38,800
might be getting some results behind the

969
00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:39,280
scene

970
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:42,399
on elizondo's behalf and uh clearing up

971
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:44,639
some of the uh the nonsense that's been

972
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:46,639
passed from the pentagon to the public

973
00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:49,440
regarding his uh work record and duties

974
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:50,000
there

975
00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:53,760
and also uh elizondo didn't spend a

976
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:54,879
whole lot of time

977
00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:57,200
uh talking about the threat scenario it

978
00:35:01,750 --> 00:34:58,720
was rather interesting

979
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:01,760
that during the during the interview

980
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:03,200
with the abc

981
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:06,480
uh stephanopoulos asked the

982
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,400
other individual who's on there was

983
00:35:13,829 --> 00:35:10,160
apparently an abc

984
00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:13,839
uh defense analyst

985
00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:17,440
for them a former air force colonel

986
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,839
he asked him about the uh about the

987
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:21,119
threat scenario and

988
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:23,200
maybe elizondo said look i'm not going

989
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:24,880
to answer any questions about that

990
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:27,040
but the segment itself got short shrift

991
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:28,000
and

992
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:29,520
really compared to the other things that

993
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:31,680
we've seen this week it really doesn't

994
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,320
uh merit a lot of detail but uh the uh

995
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:36,240
the threat scenario this has been talked

996
00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:38,160
about for some time now carol rosen's

997
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:38,960
talked about it

998
00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:41,200
uh she worked with uh wernher von braun

999
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:42,880
that uh that did happen

1000
00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:45,440
uh von braun died back in the late 70s

1001
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:46,079
but

1002
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:48,480
she has stated repeatedly that von braun

1003
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:50,000
told her

1004
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:52,640
that at some point the military will use

1005
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:54,560
the extraterrestrial threat

1006
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:57,280
as a way of uh ginning up funding and so

1007
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:58,400
on and so forth

1008
00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:00,640
uh the nbc correspondent talked about

1009
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:02,400
how ridiculous that is

1010
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:05,119
well uh maybe uh maybe in the uh with

1011
00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:06,560
the current brass and the current

1012
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:07,760
situation it is

1013
00:36:11,589 --> 00:36:09,680
but down the road you never know what

1014
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:11,599
might happen uh

1015
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:14,960
reminded of uh uh billy mitchell uh back

1016
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:17,440
in the the late 1920s uh

1017
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:20,640
he was uh a very uh

1018
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:23,680
very much a proponent of air power and

1019
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:26,480
use of war back in the 20s and the the

1020
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:27,200
the brass

1021
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:29,359
they wanted to build more battleships

1022
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:31,599
and not aircraft carriers and

1023
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:34,240
uh mitchell was uh went through a lot of

1024
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:35,200
heat he ended up

1025
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:37,280
actually getting court-martialed over

1026
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:38,560
his criticism of

1027
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:40,880
that particular strategy and i think uh

1028
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:42,640
history uh proved to brighton

1029
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:45,040
while the brass felt that way back then

1030
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:45,760
uh you'd

1031
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:48,560
have a hard time finding uh the brass of

1032
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:49,280
today

1033
00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:51,839
uh not liking any kind of a new

1034
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:53,920
expensive aerial platform that they can

1035
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:55,280
get their hands on so

1036
00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:57,119
uh things can evolve over time yeah that

1037
00:37:02,150 --> 00:36:58,640
was a century ago

1038
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:02,160
but uh keep that in mind and uh let's uh

1039
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:04,160
let's also go back this is the first

1040
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:06,400
documented

1041
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:09,040
uh piece that i'm aware of that talks

1042
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:10,320
about the alien

1043
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:13,200
uh using uh the uh the alien threat so

1044
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:14,640
uh this is written by

1045
00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:18,079
uh fletcher prouty and uh there's a book

1046
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:19,520
called the secret team

1047
00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:22,000
very critical of the cia in this

1048
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:23,200
particular book

1049
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:26,800
and uh in this he talked about

1050
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,920
uh well here it goes uh this is uh the

1051
00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:31,440
well the power structure that kept the

1052
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:33,280
cold war at that level of cost and

1053
00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:34,400
intensity has been

1054
00:37:37,470 --> 00:37:36,480
had been spearheaded by the secret team

1055
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:37,480
and its mo

1056
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:40,640
multi-national covert operations to wit

1057
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:42,400
this is the fundamental game of the

1058
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:45,280
secret team they have this power because

1059
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:47,119
they control secrecy and secret

1060
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:48,560
intelligence and because they have the

1061
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:49,280
ability

1062
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:51,599
to take advantage of the most modern

1063
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:53,680
communication system in the world and so

1064
00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:54,720
on and so forth

1065
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:57,359
it will be interesting to see what enemy

1066
00:38:03,190 --> 00:37:59,440
develops in the years ahead it appears

1067
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:03,200
that ufos and aliens are being

1068
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:05,440
prime to fulfill that role for the

1069
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:06,560
future

1070
00:38:09,950 --> 00:38:09,119
and uh that was uh from fletcher prouty

1071
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:09,960
in

1072
00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:12,800
1997 and uh just a little bit of

1073
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:13,920
background on

1074
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:16,160
fletcher prouty it's not like he's just

1075
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:17,040
some armchair

1076
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:23,750
was spouting off conspiracy theories

1077
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:33,510
yeah uh prouty was uh the former chief

1078
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:35,359
of special operations for the joint

1079
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:37,200
chiefs of staff under uh

1080
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:40,480
john f kennedy uh let's see some of the

1081
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:41,839
other things that he did

1082
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:44,079
uh that was a basically his biggest

1083
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:45,280
claim to fame

1084
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:48,560
uh he was uh let's see with the creation

1085
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:50,720
of the defense intelligence agency by

1086
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:53,200
secretary robert mcnamara uh he was

1087
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:54,640
transferred to the office

1088
00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:57,920
to create a uh chief of special

1089
00:39:03,750 --> 00:38:59,920
operations with the joint staff

1090
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:03,760
during 62-63 uh

1091
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:10,230
well those are those are major claims to

1092
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:11,440
fame but uh he was

1093
00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:15,040
it was an insider and uh you know

1094
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:17,440
it's uh certainly uh that talk was

1095
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:19,280
clearly going around that at some point

1096
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:20,320
in time

1097
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:23,440
uh so it's not uh uh not completely out

1098
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:25,599
of hand it's not some crazy conspiracy

1099
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:26,160
theory

1100
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:28,640
it is uh you know it uh this guy heard

1101
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:30,320
this and this guy heard that

1102
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:32,800
but uh still at least it's coming up

1103
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:33,359
from

1104
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:35,200
uh something close to a credible source

1105
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:36,720
so we'll see how all that plays out

1106
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:38,000
although i don't see that

1107
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:40,240
uh that happening anytime soon but

1108
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:41,359
obviously

1109
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:43,599
uh uh sheehan has also done some work on

1110
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:44,880
the assassination

1111
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:48,400
of uh jfk so uh he's obviously well

1112
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:50,880
aware of proud he has a red secret team

1113
00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:55,200
i'm sure and uh he wants uh elizondo to

1114
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:58,079
get away from that uh from that kind of

1115
00:40:02,630 --> 00:39:59,119
threat talk

1116
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:02,640
and uh get more into the uh the

1117
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:05,040
positive contact with extraterrestrials

1118
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:06,240
and i have to admit

1119
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:08,400
i'm on the same page with them on that

1120
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:09,760
i'd like to see that happen

1121
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:12,720
but again uh means to an end and you

1122
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:13,680
can't deny

1123
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:16,800
where uh where the ufo subject is now so

1124
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:18,560
uh that's about it for this week uh

1125
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:19,440
hopefully

1126
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:21,359
uh you've gotten some insights and uh

1127
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:22,800
some things to think about

1128
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:25,200
uh the the the car is not in the garage

1129
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:27,680
yet and uh we don't know exactly how

1130
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:30,240
uh it's gonna get there which uh the the

1131
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:32,240
precise streets it's gonna go down

1132
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:34,560
but we've got soap opera we've got this

1133
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:36,480
is the uh the greatest soap opera in the

1134
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:38,160
world going right about now you got

1135
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:38,720
president

1136
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:42,160
uh uh

1137
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:45,280
directors of uh intel agencies uh

1138
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:48,960
uh the u.s senators uh the media

1139
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:51,040
uh everybody's uh involved now

1140
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:52,400
everybody's all in

1141
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:54,400
and uh it's going to continue to be

1142
00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:55,920
interesting hopefully it's not

1143
00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:58,319
too interesting this coming week because

1144
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:00,160
i want to kind of sit back and enjoy

1145
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:02,800
my holiday weekend and not have too much

1146
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:04,000
to do with this but

1147
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,160
if it merits it uh we'll be back next

1148
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,560
week uh but uh probably i would say

1149
00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:10,560
since uh i think uh this is uh building

1150
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:11,839
a little bit i would say

1151
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:14,720
probably uh the first weekend in june it

1152
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:16,480
will be the next show but you never know

1153
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:17,280
you never know

1154
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:19,280
so uh you have a great week everybody i

1155
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:20,880
think we're in a good spot

1156
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:24,079
and uh if you don't like exactly uh

1157
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:26,160
where things are going uh you can do

1158
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:27,839
like me you can just speak out about it

1159
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:28,319
because

1160
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:30,560
you've got your platforms i've got mine

1161
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:32,560
and uh certainly intend to keep using

1162
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:32,800
them

1163
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:34,480
so have a great weekend if i don't talk

1164
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:36,400
to you between now and then have a great